Talking About Suboxone

I got the fwd from dadonnfire, and i’m the one he said he would fwd too.

i have been on subs for over 3 years now. they have allowed me to change my life for the better. i suggest people work a recovery prog.(aa/na) along with subs. subs allow the addict to feel normal. and normal is a gift at first cause that’s why opiates have such a low recovery rate. cause when u quit, cold turkey without anything and then go on with life, you do not feel normal for up to a year or 18 months. and many people don’t know that. ur husband can sit back and talk shit all he wants. is he an addict that has been addicted to opiates? if not then he doesn’t know what he is talking about. i don’t call people in the middle of the nite for my subs, i don’t sit on the corner waiting for the dealer to come with them either. what i am getting at is subs allow you to cross the thin line from addiction to drug dependence, meaning you are dependent on subs or bupe the active ingredient in the subs. just like a diabetic is dependent upon insulin or an asthmatic is dependent on an inhaler, if u are dependent on subs you are just medicating your disease of addiction.

they allow the addictive behaviors and the past behaviors, the hurt and pain and guilt that an addict has built up to be worked on thru the steps, or a therapist or what ever way they choose to work on themselves to become a better person.

the people that do best on subs i have seen are end of the road addicts, people that have tried every other way of recovery that there is out there and have failed at it. like myself. subs were the last thing that i tried. and i have been doing good living a great productive life ever since. if you want some good resources on the med you can go to http://www.naabt.org there is a chart there on how subs work. you can give it to your husband to look at too. and if he wants to talk more smack you can give him my info and he can talk to me. cause until he has been where ur daughter has been or i have been he can’t say anything.

and if you stop the suboxone like any opiate, she will get sick. and she still looks high prob cause you tell yourself she looks high. suboxone has a ceiling effect meaning unless you try hard to get high on it, ur not gonna get high, u have to add a benzo like xanax in the mix and not take it for a few days to get any feeling on it, its very very hard cause of the properties of the bupe. if u want to talk to me more get at someone on here and i’ll talk to you. opiate addiction is a mofo to deal with and for someone to recover they have to be willing to do anything it takes.

its like my reference that i use, if you haven’t been in war shooting at other people in the military, you dont know what its like. i don’t know what its like to have a bomb go off right next to me or have people shooting at me, so i can’t go up to a vet and go man up, its BS doing that. cause i have no idea. that’s what ur husband is doing (if he hasn’t been where she has been, he may be an addict i don’t know).

people that don’t use drugs, just don’t have a clue what we go thru to get clean, i like to say they don’t even have a clue they don’t have a clue.